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Speaking of Siva (Penguin Classics)
Speaking of Siva (Penguin Classics)

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Author: Anonymous
Creator: A. K. Ramanujan
Publisher: Penguin Classics
Category: Book

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Avg. Customer Rating: 5.0 out of 5 stars 6 reviews
Sales Rank: 194383

Media: Paperback
Number Of Items: 1
Pages: 208
Shipping Weight (lbs): 0.4
Dimensions (in): 7.8 x 5.1 x 0.6

ISBN: 0140442707
Dewey Decimal Number: 894.8141108
EAN: 9780140442700
ASIN: 0140442707

Publication Date: August 30, 1973
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5 out of 5 stars Exquisite Interpretation of Vachanas   September 16, 2008
If you are into Kannada vachanas (prose sayings) or would like to delve into the subject, this is the book for you. AK Ramanujan has beautifully brought out the intricacies of four great vachana composers in 12th century India and removes the veil from what might seem to be a formidable task for non-Kannada speakers. This book can be a great spiritual guide as well, if you are not particularly reading it for the vachanas' sake.


5 out of 5 stars Wonderful Sampling of Shiva Poetry   February 27, 2008
 3 out of 3 found this review helpful

This book became an immediate favorite of mine ever since I picked up a copy of it a couple of years ago. Stunning poems from the Shiva bhakti tradition of India. Basavanna, Devara Dasimayya, Mahadevi, Allama Prabhu. The commentary in the book, though a little academic, is genuinely insightful. Enthusiastically recommended!


5 out of 5 stars Sublime poetry of the ages   July 24, 2007
 2 out of 3 found this review helpful

This book contains the most moving, personal theistic poetry I have ever read. I re-read it constantly, and have begun buying copies for my close friends. Basavanna and his Virasaiva followers shattered the caste barriers (which do not exist in the Vedas anyhow), and went on to shatter economic and gender barriers. The actions of these saints elaborates their poetry rather than contradicting it. If you don't buy this book, there will be more copies for me.


5 out of 5 stars Fascinating Bhakti poems devoted to Siva   April 27, 2002
 24 out of 25 found this review helpful

These are fascinating medieval Bhakti poems by four Virasaiva saints, devoted to the Hindu god, Siva, translated from the Kannada language. I am in no position to judge the accuracy of the translation, but they read very well. I should point out that they were not polytheists but monotheists who worshipped God under the form of Siva, just as others, for example, would worship the one god under the form of Vishnu.

These four poets, Dasimayya, Basavanna, Allamu, and my favorite, Mahadeviyakka, flourished in the tenth to twelfth centuries. They wrote short poems called vacanas, and according to the translator, A. K. Ramanujan, the are the greatest poets in that tradition. They are a selection of their works, and the identification by a number refers to other editions, and does not imply there are hundreds of poems in this relatively short book.

The Bhakti saints often broke away from the Hindu caste system and the elaborate temples and ritual systems in the name of personal relgion. Poem 820 by Basavanna illustrates this perfectly (p. 89):

"The rich
will make temples for Siva.
What shall I,
a poor man,
do?"

"My legs are pillars,
the body a shrine,
the head a cupola
of gold." (820)

These four religious poets were devoted to Siva and generally addressed their vacanas to him. They all give particular titles to their universal lord connected with their experience of him. Three of them use titles connected to particular places where they had their conversion experiences. Bassavana addressed his poems to the "lord of the meeting rivers," and Allamu Prabhu to the "Lord of Caves." Devada Desimayya's village had a temple devoted to Ramanatha, Rama's Lord, and he used that. Similarly, Mahadeviyakka called her lord, Cennamallikarjuna, apparently related to the form of Siva worshipped in the temple of her village. Ramnujan translates this as "the Lord White as Jasmine," but points out in his introduction that it can also mean, "Arjuna, Lord of the godess Mallika." (p. 111)

The one I find most appealing is the young woman, Mahadeviyakka. She apparently had early devoted herself to Siva, but she was apparently more or less forced into a marriage with a king, which was not successful. She had already regarded herself as married to her "Lord White as Jasmine." Her poems sometimes refer to Siva as her husband and sometimes as her lover, reflecting the conflict.

There are stories of her wandering naked, covered with her long hair, to Kalyanna, where Basavanna and Allamu head a school of devotees. Among other things, Allamu asked her about her contradictory behavior, that is, why, since she wears no sari, she then covers herself with the tresses of her hair (no. 183, p. 112-13).

"Till the fruit is ripe inside
the skin will not fall off.
I'd a feeling it would hurt you
If I displayed the body's seals of love."

Anyway, they accepted her as one of their number. It is reported that she later continued her wanderings in search of her Lord. Tradition has it she died fairly young, in her twenties.

For all her independence, we must not read modern attitudes into her work. This is particularly true of her ambiguos feelings about her body.

"After this body has known my lord,
who cares if it feeds
a dog
or soaks up water?" (117)

I will offer a few phrases from Mahadeviyakka with the numbers of the vacanas:

"Seeing the feet of the master,

O lord white as jasmine,
I was made
worthwhile." (45)

"loving my lord white as jasmine
I have wandered through unlikely worlds." (69)

"O lord white as jasmine
filling and filled by all
why don't you
show me your face?" (75)

"Since your love
was planted,
I've forgotten hunger,
thirst and sleep." (79)

"Take me, flaws and all,
O Lord
white as jasmine." (251)

This book makes available some material which is rather hard to find elsewhere. The poems themselves, though they reflect the broad background of Hindu religious life, nevertheless can have in many respects a universal appeal for those devoted to the Lord.


5 out of 5 stars Siva, Destroyer of Illusions   January 14, 2000
 11 out of 14 found this review helpful

This poetry is of the 10th century Bhakti, or devotional yogic tradition, which eschewed academic traditions of prosody and style ("...I don't know anything about meter/ I don't know anything of rhyme/ As nothing will hurt you, My Lord Siva, I'll sing as I love..." one poet writes). The book features excellent translations from Kannada (a Dravidian language), especially of the work of Mahadevi-Akka, a Godiva-like figure who left wealth, marriage, home, and ultimately, her would-be teachers behind to wander naked and homeless in worship of her "Lord White as Jasmine." As the destroyer of illusions, Siva is a purveyor of truth, here found in this devotional poetry.

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